USA held in high esteem during 90's?

[Marco Zee]

Here's something I have been meaning to ask you guys for a while.....

IF the world loved and respected us SO MUCH during the Clinton Presidency, as many of you keep claiming, why did AQ attack us 8 times during his administration, and infiltrate all of the 9-11 hijackers into the USA during his term?

Marco

[Flying Lobster]

Here's something I have been meaning to ask you guys for a while.....

IF the world loved and respected us SO MUCH during the Clinton Presidency, as many of you keep claiming, why did AQ attack us 8 times during his administration, and infiltrate all of the 9-11 hijackers into the USA during his term?

Marco

Because Usama ordered it (um, most of the world already knows that).

Next question?

marc

[Flying Lobster]

Here's something I have been meaning to ask you guys for a while.....

IF the world loved and respected us SO MUCH during the Clinton Presidency, as many of you keep claiming, why did AQ attack us 8 times during his administration, and infiltrate all of the 9-11 hijackers into the USA during his term?

Marco

Ohh..in case you missed the staggering illogic of your correlation between world respect for the US as a measure of AQ attacks against an administration, how many attacks have been launched by AQ and sympthetic terrorist organizations against the the US during the present administration?

marc

[Matthew]

So Marco,

It's interesting that you claim that AQ respresents the entire world?

Matthew

[Marco Zee]

OK gents, let me rephrase since you seemed to have had some difficulty with the opening question.

Let's remember that the US was at its PINNACLE in world love, good will, and admiration during the 90s thanks to BC....so.....

IF the world loved and respected us SO MUCH during the Clinton Presidency, as many of you keep claiming, WHY did Osama order the AQ attacks on us 8 times during his administration, and infiltrate all of the 9-11 hijackers into the USA during his term?

Or, more simply, why didn't Osama love Bill & the USA, like the rest of the world did (allegedly)? Or, Why did Osama hate Bill?

Marco

[brianvh]

Osama hated Bill because he made America look good.

He loves George. Gave him a nice little training ground to play with.

[Flying Lobster]

OK gents, let me rephrase since you seemed to have had some difficulty with the opening question.

Let's remember that the US was at its PINNACLE in world love, good will, and admiration during the 90s thanks to BC....so.....

IF the world loved and respected us SO MUCH during the Clinton Presidency, as many of you keep claiming, WHY did Osama order the AQ attacks on us 8 times during his administration, and infiltrate all of the 9-11 hijackers into the USA during his term?

Or, more simply, why didn't Osama love Bill & the USA, like the rest of the world did (allegedly)? Or, Why did Osama hate Bill?

Marco

Marco--your questions/rhetorical statements do not make any comprehensible sense--I have no idea what you're trying to say--though you'll never find anything from me claiming myself or the world loved bill Clinton.

You are absolutely fixated on this question of loving Bill Clinton--I have to assume you must be desirous of him yourself. Perhaps you should contact him directly?

marc

[deveil]

IF the world loved and respected us SO MUCH during the Clinton Presidency, as many of you keep claiming, WHY did Osama order the AQ attacks on us 8 times during his administration, and infiltrate all of the 9-11 hijackers into the USA during his term?

i know this one! call on me ! call on me !
'cause saddem told him to, you know, because of the WMD

Or, Why did Osama hate Bill? Marco

ummhh? 'cause he was secretly in love with monica ?
or was it hillary he was in love with ? i keep gettin confused.

Why did Osama hate Bill?
wow, i didn't really know how stupid that sounded til i saw it in print !
can i have a do over ? Marco
(notice: not an actual quote. more of a mind reading thing

[Marco Zee]

Marc and Brian,
I hear repeatedly, most recently from JR's post in Saddam Hanging, that the world held the USA in such high esteem, regard, and prestige during the Clinton years. And that the GWOT and the Iraq War have "squandered" this world opinion/impression, especially after 9-11 when the world "really loved us".

I just don't see what BC did, other than decimate the military and "redeploy from Somalia", that "earned" respect from the rest of the world. Bin Laden certainly did not, and does not, hold the USA in high esteem, despite BC's presidency.

And so, I don't see this "loss of esteem and prestige" as a factual or well-founded argument in this discussion on how to proceen in the GWOT and Iraq.

[Joe Schad]

Lets see. The shrub decided to start a war in Irag after starting a war in Afghanistan. He did not ask the American people for an increase in our military strength or sacrifice from the American People(told them to go shopping). The shrub has not budgeted one dime for the war. He did not listen to the military who said it would take hundreds of thousands more troops to occupy Iraq after the invasion, and then totally mishandled the initial occupation and created the best possible training ground for terrorists. Three years after grossly overextending our military forces he still has not requested an increase in the size of the armed forces(the Democrats have). AS A COMMANDER IN CHIEF GEORGE BUSH SHOULD BE FIRED FOR DERILICTION OF DUTY!

George does not know how to be honest. He is a bully and he is deceitful. But of course we are all expected to forgive him because he is a "good christian". Hogwash!

Joe

[brianvh]

Okay, I shouldn't say that Bill did anything to make the world love America. America does that by itself...but Bill didn't keep reinforcing the negative aspects that make much of the world hate America if suitably inflamed. People do have an idealized love/hate relationship with our country, but it's kinda like having a beautiful girlfriend who every now and then trashes your house just to prove who's the dominant one in the relationship. You come home to a smoking sofa with cantaloupe dribbling off the ceiling and the word 'LOSER' written across the wall with shoe polish and say "Oh yeah, forgot about that part".

[dbodner]

I'd like to go back to Matthew's response. It's true that inherent in Marco's question is the assumption that most of the world views the US as AQ does. I don't think I'm willing to believe that. But, should that prove to be true, I think I may have to come around to share Marco's political philosophy.