The NCEP 850mb 'cast has that same direction change, same timeframe.
The NWS surface 'cast for Woodstock is now W@10-15.
So.... Maybe we're looking at a late day at Woodstock tomorrow???
Place yer bets!!
MarkC
Or perhaps Woodstock 01/06/07 ?
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Or perhaps Woodstock 01/06/07 ?
The ADDS 3k is calling for WSW@20-30 at 1pm, and WNW@20-30 at 7pm.
The NCEP 850mb 'cast has that same direction change, same timeframe.
The NWS surface 'cast for Woodstock is now W@10-15.
So.... Maybe we're looking at a late day at Woodstock tomorrow???
Place yer bets!!
MarkC
The NCEP 850mb 'cast has that same direction change, same timeframe.
The NWS surface 'cast for Woodstock is now W@10-15.
So.... Maybe we're looking at a late day at Woodstock tomorrow???
Place yer bets!!
MarkC
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Dave Proctor
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where to fly today... if at all
Boy, I hate these forecasts. Strong, diminishing, cross..... It might be doable at woodstock. I haven't decided yet. Maybe I'll give you (Markc) a call later and we can try to talk each other into it.
DaveP
DaveP
I think I've talked myself into WS already Dave
The satellite is hinting at pretty significant wave,
so Pulpit seems a bad bet. And I think I'd rather
gamble on a west-cross day at Woodstock than
a west-cross day at Daniel's.
I think I'll plan to arrive around 1:00, like Gary.
MarkC
Mobile: 301-807-5414
The satellite is hinting at pretty significant wave,
so Pulpit seems a bad bet. And I think I'd rather
gamble on a west-cross day at Woodstock than
a west-cross day at Daniel's.
I think I'll plan to arrive around 1:00, like Gary.
MarkC
Mobile: 301-807-5414
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Dave Proctor
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Well, it was a good try....
I met Dave in the LZ at 1:00pm, finding winds that were
45-60 degrees cross, as expected. It was blowing pretty
good, so we were in no hurry to head up top. Hung for a
while to see if any others would show, then went up to
launch, arriving a bit before 2pm.
Bacil and Gary were there, mostly set up. Bacil launched
not long after 2:00 for a flight of 30 or 40 minutes, landing
in one of the fields near The Rivered Inn in order to hike
back up. He reported turb low, with somewhat better conditions
higher up.
Back at launch, the direction was improving, with occasional
cycles only slightly cross. I gave it a go around 3:20pm,
into winds that were definitely picking up. I figured that the
predicted W->WNW shift was underway.
Flew for a while, getting 1000' or so. Dave and Gary launched
and got up, though Gary was working hard for a while. About
that time conditions really picked up at 900' over or so, and
the direction was majorly cross, at least 60, sometimes more.
Flying at 3/4 and occasionall full VG, I noticed that I was parking
for good periods of time (though I wasn't really pulled in). So
I started flying pretty conservatively, punching south and out
from the mountain, creeping along, with an occasional 360 or
two, then repeat.
Dave pulled VG and headed south to the grass airstrip just north
of Edinburg gap. I thought about following, but was concerned
about my glide. Gary says that he was pulled in pretty good for
most of his flight.
The strong winds seemed to creep down to lower altitudes, and
although I was trying to stick it out until sunset, I finally tossed
in the towel after hitting 1000+ down. I figure that there was wave
up above, with both the up and the down occasionally dropping
to our altitude.
I boxed the field, then S-turned along the north treeline, putting
it down along the spine of the LZ. Gary's landing was a bit less
southerly, seemed like a good one from the air.
We broke down then chased after Dave, getting back up top
a bit after 6:00.
Wasn't a scary flight, but it wasn't a whole lot of fun either. So
if you didn't go, ya didn't miss a whole lot!
MarkC
I met Dave in the LZ at 1:00pm, finding winds that were
45-60 degrees cross, as expected. It was blowing pretty
good, so we were in no hurry to head up top. Hung for a
while to see if any others would show, then went up to
launch, arriving a bit before 2pm.
Bacil and Gary were there, mostly set up. Bacil launched
not long after 2:00 for a flight of 30 or 40 minutes, landing
in one of the fields near The Rivered Inn in order to hike
back up. He reported turb low, with somewhat better conditions
higher up.
Back at launch, the direction was improving, with occasional
cycles only slightly cross. I gave it a go around 3:20pm,
into winds that were definitely picking up. I figured that the
predicted W->WNW shift was underway.
Flew for a while, getting 1000' or so. Dave and Gary launched
and got up, though Gary was working hard for a while. About
that time conditions really picked up at 900' over or so, and
the direction was majorly cross, at least 60, sometimes more.
Flying at 3/4 and occasionall full VG, I noticed that I was parking
for good periods of time (though I wasn't really pulled in). So
I started flying pretty conservatively, punching south and out
from the mountain, creeping along, with an occasional 360 or
two, then repeat.
Dave pulled VG and headed south to the grass airstrip just north
of Edinburg gap. I thought about following, but was concerned
about my glide. Gary says that he was pulled in pretty good for
most of his flight.
The strong winds seemed to creep down to lower altitudes, and
although I was trying to stick it out until sunset, I finally tossed
in the towel after hitting 1000+ down. I figure that there was wave
up above, with both the up and the down occasionally dropping
to our altitude.
I boxed the field, then S-turned along the north treeline, putting
it down along the spine of the LZ. Gary's landing was a bit less
southerly, seemed like a good one from the air.
We broke down then chased after Dave, getting back up top
a bit after 6:00.
Wasn't a scary flight, but it wasn't a whole lot of fun either. So
if you didn't go, ya didn't miss a whole lot!
MarkC
My flight was a little better, if you can call it that. Launched around 2:15P into light conditions on launch and got pushed sideways (expected) as I exited the slot. Turned left into the expected cross and what a cross it was. Had to be nearly WSW at 20 knots on the ridge. Dolphin flew to the SW in the rotor and slowly got up above the ridge. A few times at trim I was parked, but as I slowly gained altitude my groundspeed picked up. Saw a nice cloud growing down by the Karmy airstrip where Dave ended up landing. Slowly made my way out under it and climbed to 2.1K over launch. At this altitude I was pretty cold in my T-shirt and shorts (is today Jan. 6th? 
) so I decided to use this altitude to glide NE, with quite an expected quartering tailwind, and land in the front yard of a fellow I met when staying at the River'd Inn. I had asked him for landing privileges and he granted them. Reached the area with plenty of altitude to spare. Saw that it was honking from the SW (bushes on his driveway were swaying in some strong surface winds). Pretty tight RLF with power lines and such. Made sure I stayed inside the power lines and turned base to final. On final some turbulence pushed me towards the road and the lines but had plenty of speed to correct the heading and land in the front yard around 3P. Of course the guy wasn't home, so I quickly packed up and made my way around the U-bend in the river and climbed up the nearest spine to its top. Took this spine all the way to intersect the power line clear cut and the road a couple of switchbacks below the parking lot. All told it took about 55 minutes to hike the mountain. Back at launch the conditions had picked up. Strong cycles could be heard in the trees. The sky to the west showed evidence of wave with signature wave clouds setting up just across the valley. Dave called in over the radio that he was on the ground down at the airstrip. Saw Gary parked just out in front of launch a couple hundred over. Mark was still up as well.
Bacil
) so I decided to use this altitude to glide NE, with quite an expected quartering tailwind, and land in the front yard of a fellow I met when staying at the River'd Inn. I had asked him for landing privileges and he granted them. Reached the area with plenty of altitude to spare. Saw that it was honking from the SW (bushes on his driveway were swaying in some strong surface winds). Pretty tight RLF with power lines and such. Made sure I stayed inside the power lines and turned base to final. On final some turbulence pushed me towards the road and the lines but had plenty of speed to correct the heading and land in the front yard around 3P. Of course the guy wasn't home, so I quickly packed up and made my way around the U-bend in the river and climbed up the nearest spine to its top. Took this spine all the way to intersect the power line clear cut and the road a couple of switchbacks below the parking lot. All told it took about 55 minutes to hike the mountain. Back at launch the conditions had picked up. Strong cycles could be heard in the trees. The sky to the west showed evidence of wave with signature wave clouds setting up just across the valley. Dave called in over the radio that he was on the ground down at the airstrip. Saw Gary parked just out in front of launch a couple hundred over. Mark was still up as well.Bacil
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Dave Proctor
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not that bad at woodstock
Bacil had landed and Mark elected to give it a go. While it was apparent that the winds were still cross, there were a lot of really nice straight launch cycles. Mark had a good launch and I followed. Gary volunteered to crew me off and self launch. Thanks Gary. I launched soon after Mark and headed to the left for awhile to get on the SW side of the spine to minimize rotor. I didn't think it was that bad. Found some nice thermals and the drift was surprisingly not bad either. I played around near launch getting 1200 over or so. After about a half hour I could see that the main LZ was pretty much a cow-arama. The thought of trying to land in the primary, in strong W cross, dodging cows wasn't that attractive so I decided that I would head SW to get to the grass strip about a mile shy of the gap. Took about 30 minutes to get there. I got there at over 1K AGL so just kinda flew around and burned it off. His windsock showed that it was blowing only slightly cross to the mountain down low. I didn't believe it (actually I believed the sock, just didn't believe it would *stay* that way) so hedged my bets and set up for a longish final so I could adjust my direction to correct for any crab. It was pretty rowdy down low but smoothed out about 100 ft on final. I touched down perpendicular to and in the middle of the grass strip. Walked my gear over to the entrance to his driveway and started breaking down. The landowner drove out and stopped to chat. Bob Karmy is a ob-gyn and has owned the property since 1978. Really nice guy, said that we are welcome to land there anytime. Bob gave me the grand tour of his hangar, plane, indoor pool house, and the main house. Mark and Gary picked me up and we retrieved the cars at launch. Mark and I went to Christine's in Strasburg for Modelos and Mexican. Great day. Unlike Mark I thought it was a very fun flight. Mark attributed that to not having all that pig-sticker crap sticking out of the top surface 
. I have had my share of flights where I wished I had never launched. Yesterday wasn't one of them. Glad I flew, had a blast.
DaveP
showed that it was blowing only slightly cross to the mountain down low. I didn't believe it (actually I believed the sock, just didn't believe it would *stay* that way) so hedged my bets and set up for a longish final so I could adjust my direction to correct for any crab. It was pretty rowdy down low but smoothed out about 100 ft on final. I touched down perpendicular to and in the middle of the grass strip. Walked my gear over to the entrance to his driveway and started breaking down. The landowner drove out and stopped to chat. Bob Karmy is a ob-gyn and has owned the property since 1978. Really nice guy, said that we are welcome to land there anytime. Bob gave me the grand tour of his hangar, plane, indoor pool house, and the main house. Mark and Gary picked me up and we retrieved the cars at launch. Mark and I went to Christine's in Strasburg for Modelos and Mexican. Great day. Unlike Mark I thought it was a very fun flight. Mark attributed that to not having all that pig-sticker crap sticking out of the top surface . I have had my share of flights where I wished I had never launched. Yesterday wasn't one of them. Glad I flew, had a blast.DaveP