Terrorists want Dem victory in USA

[Marco Zee]

By Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

JERUSALEM – Everybody has an opinion about next Tuesday's midterm congressional election in the U.S. – including senior terrorist leaders interviewed by WND who say they hope Americans sweep the Democrats into power because of the party's position on withdrawing from Iraq, a move, as they see it, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.......

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=52747

[deveil]

oh hell, marco
you win again.

[Flying Lobster]

By Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

JERUSALEM – Everybody has an opinion about next Tuesday's midterm congressional election in the U.S. – including senior terrorist leaders interviewed by WND who say they hope Americans sweep the Democrats into power because of the party's position on withdrawing from Iraq, a move, as they see it, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.......

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=52747

Nice scholarly newssource, Marco. A far-right orthodox Christian site that is nothing more than a front for selling propaganda items to finance exploitation of weak minds like your's. Bigotry--ethnic hatred--xenophobia--now those are real family values, aren't they?

You would have made a fantastic Nazi--or maybe you are one?

marc

[Flying Lobster]

By Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

JERUSALEM – Everybody has an opinion about next Tuesday's midterm congressional election in the U.S. – including senior terrorist leaders interviewed by WND who say they hope Americans sweep the Democrats into power because of the party's position on withdrawing from Iraq, a move, as they see it, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.......

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=52747

see: http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2 ... mert3.html

[brianvh]

The terrorists are anything but stupid. They know the american public will be swayed to do the opposite of what they say, and vote republican. The last thing they want is a democratic leadership in America, because then they run the risk of losing their nice little terrorist training ground.

Repressive groups like the terrorists need an enemy to survive. Vote for the bushies and you're walking right into their arms.

[Marco Zee]

Terrorists the world over are celebrating the Dem victories in Congress on tuesday, hoping that the Dems will force a unwise retreat from Iraq and the GWOT in general.

Let's see which wing of the Dem party, the Liebermann Dems or the Murtha Dems, will prevail in the months and years to come. Of course, the terrorists are rooting for Murtha et al.....

I am hopeful that the terrorist's celebration is premature and unwarranted, and that there will be enough level-headed Dems, like Liebermann, joining the Prez & the GOP on these critical national security issues.

Marco

[Flying Lobster]

Terrorists the world over are celebrating the Dem victories in Congress on tuesday, hoping that the Dems will force a unwise retreat from Iraq and the GWOT in general.

Let's see which wing of the Dem party, the Liebermann Dems or the Murtha Dems, will prevail in the months and years to come. Of course, the terrorists are rooting for Murtha et al.....

I am hopeful that the terrorist's celebration is premature and unwarranted, and that there will be enough level-headed Dems, like Liebermann, joining the Prez & the GOP on these critical national security issues.

Marco

Liebermann is not a Democrat.

Your wishes have totally failed--as will your complicit desires that somehow terrorism will spike as a result of the Democratic takeover. The election results ARE THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE and they have resoundingly repudiated the failed policies of the administration and Republicans.

Even Bush and the Republicans have finally conceeded that they have made judgement errors and the time for change has arrived. I suppose you interpret this as a sign that the Pres and the rest of the Republicans have also become pansy liberal Clintonoids?

There is a "Dr. Strangelove" aspect to your hate-mongering, Marco. You fail to see that the true meaning of the election results: that the president, the republicans and the newly empowered Democratic majority have all publicly stated to the citizens of the country that they know the mandate for change is on the table, and that they are going to strive to work together to solve the significant problems that face the nation. That is the true meaning of democracy.

We look forward to your continued commentaries--which at this point are more like lame jokes.

marc

[brianvh]

I don't think I'd call Marco's recent posts 'hate-mongering'. He's hoping for conservative liberalism, and I can't say that would be a bad thing.

I doubt we'll see a sudden withdrawal...that would be almost as bad as the initial mismanagement. Our very presence may be causing problems in Iraq, but any sudden power vacuum would be filled by the wrong people.

What we will see is a more open debate, where people seeking change won't be labelled anti-patriotic and swept under the carpet. If the trend continues into the next presidency, I hope the new leadership will be quicker to admit mistakes and more likely to listen to advice they get from the professionals in the armed forces: the same ones who said a force of several hundred thousand would be needed to hold Iraq.

Rumsfeld's gone, and he was the biggest problem. Perhaps the administration will become more reasonable now.

[Matthew]

One might remind Marco that Republicans are pussies and can't fight their way out of a paper bag. Dems, however, know how to finish a war.

FDR defeated Hitler,
Truman dropped the bomb on Japan
Even Clinton kicked Bosnian ass

Ike went to a stalemate in in Korea
Nixon withdrew from Vietnam
Bush, Sr. didn't finish the job in Iraq 1 when we had just cause to obliterate the country as our enemy, not this mamby pamby BS of so-called liberating a country by W and then being stuck there forever.

And W has no plan for finishing Iraq 2.

Democrats call for peace because they know the true cost of war-- destroying your enemy. Republicans like to spend money on war machines so there rich friends can get richer. But they sure don't have the brains or will for fighting a war.


Matthew

[Flying Lobster]

One might remind Marco that Republicans are pussies and can't fight their way out of a paper bag. Dems, however, know how to finish a war.

FDR defeated Hitler,
Truman dropped the bomb on Japan
Even Clinton kicked Bosnian ass

Ike went to a stalemate in in Korea
Nixon withdrew from Vietnam
Bush, Sr. didn't finish the job in Iraq 1 when we had just cause to obliterate the country as our enemy, not this mamby pamby BS of so-called liberating a country by W and then being stuck there forever.

And W has no plan for finishing Iraq 2.

Democrats call for peace because they know the true cost of war-- destroying your enemy. Republicans like to spend money on war machines so there rich friends can get richer. But they sure don't have the brains or will for fighting a war.


Matthew

Don't be irrational in the same way the neo-cons are, Matt. Republicans ARE NOT pussies, that is for sure. As much as it may shock you, I used to be one and voted for Reagan--and supported Bush 41's action in Iraq.

But this new "ultra right moral majority neo-con" bunch is a different breed--and they have to be stopped.

marc

[deveil]

Republicans ARE NOT pussies, ... I used to be one ...

marc

nobodies going to take that one? marco ?

[Flying Lobster]

Republicans ARE NOT pussies, ... I used to be one ...

marc

nobodies going to take that one? marco ?

I like the selection of Robert Gates, former CIA director under Bush 41--a good selection by Bush--had Bush listened to his advisors and sacked Rummie before the election they may have retained control of the Senate. I think Gates is the right guy for injecting a dose of reality to the administration.

Thank you Mr. Bush.

Just because I don't agree with ultra-right neo-cons doesn't mean I follow lockstep with the far left, either.

marc

[mcelrah]

Well, you got your answer, Marco - Murtha didn't get to be majority whip, but rather my own rep Steny Hoyer (also a Marine veteran). It would be interesting to find out how many of the politicians on each side have had actual military experience - might upset the false stereotype of Democratic pussies and Republican machos. And of course, Nancy Pelosi is no hot-tubbing Californian - she's the scion of a Baltimore political family. Think old-fashioned ward politics. Dissing Jane Harman for chair of the HPSCI (House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence) in favor of Alcee Hastings, he who was impeached and removed from a federal judgeship for corruption - another piss-poor personnel selection by the first woman Speaker... - Hugh

[Marco Zee]

Australian PM John Howard has blasted the Dems, specifically Barak Obama, for admitting defeat in Iraq and advocating a prompt retreat of US forces.

Not only are the terrorists rooting for the Dems here in the USA, but the Dems are rooting for the terrorists in Iraq, and elsewhere.
Birds of a feather.

Marco

[mcelrah]

Key word is "admitting". The defeat is real and an accomplished fact. Admitting it is the key to finding ways to mitigate Bush's abject failure. All of the bad things Bush & co. said "would" happen "if" we withdrew - are happening now! We are going to have a "battle of Baghdad" under Petraeus' leadership, but the surge will unavoidably cause a draw down in U.S. forces afterward. Moreover, as I said here seems like two years ago, the political pressure will force Bush himself to reduce U.S. presence in his last two years - doesn't mean Iraq will be "over" - but "withdrawal" was always in the cards. Army and Marine Corps are tapped out - they are sending Navy reservists to do convoys - the road kind! Sure the U.S. could do a real WW II-style mobilization for war and put many millions of men (and women) under arms - but it is one of the characteristics of imperial powers that they get involved in wars that do NOT involve the existential national interest - so we won't mobilize.

I'm sorry Biden doesn't have enough hair or stay on message well enough to be a good candidate - he would be a fine president (Secretary of State?). I think he was trying to say Obama is "clean-cut". O looked like a space-alien to me at first, but I'm getting used to him - and he has the possibility of being an inspirational president like Reagan or Clinton. Hillary in contrast to Biden is way to cautious and programmed in her speech. I still like McCain, but the war is gonna sink him even if kissing the conservative assholes doesn't leave him with a brown ring around his mouth by the general election. - Hugh

[Marco Zee]

Key word is "admitting". The defeat is real and an accomplished fact. Admitting it is the key to finding ways to mitigate Bush's abject failure.
Hugh

I could not disagree more.
The battle is ongoing, but it is far from an accomplished defeat.....not even close to a US defeat. You are saying that USA military has NO CHANCE for victory in Iraq.

I think your defeatist attitude is not warranted.

Marco

[mcelrah]

Yup, the U.S. MILITARY has zero chance of "winning" - whatever "winning" is supposed to mean. Iraq is not now amenable to a military solution, if it ever was. What are the troops supposed to do? Fight the Sunni insurgents and the Shi'a militia both? Or favor one over the other? Which one? Not to mention that they can't really tell who's who.

I like the Biden plan, which has been on the table for over two years: substantial autonomy for the ethnic groups within a loose confederation. Make no mistake: this means ethnic cleansing, which is going on already. The Kurds don't even fly the Iraqi flag in their area and have been governing themselves quite nicely since 1991, initially under U.S. fighter cover. There could be a military role in making Sunni-Shi'a separation slightly less brutal, and in protecting the Kurds from the Turks, who will not stand for an independent Kurdistan. Not a great solution, but better than letting the situation continue to deteriorate, which, according to the recent National Intelligence Estimate, is exactly what we can expect absent a political solution, with or without 20k more troops.

As Oliver Hardy used to say: "A fine mess you've made!" - Hugh