In a slightly convoluted manner I now own a Sport 2 that I swapped for a Falcon 1 from Highland...
At the Team Challenge, a teammate let me fly his S2 having recently upgraded to a U2. At the time it wasn't for sale as he wanted to keep it as a backup glider and something for friends to fly if stuck. Fast forward numerous discussions and I had decided to stick to my Falcon over the winter and look at getting a S2 next year.
Then my teammate shoots me a email saying he would really like a Falcon 170 for his wife (oh, and to be his second glider when not a U2 day) but the deals on offer all required him to trade in his S2 and add money on top - did I know of anything and could I help...
Sonny very graciously let me take one of their Falcons down to Chattanooga and I would either bring it back, bring it back with the S2 or just bring back the S2 - it was the latter!
I spent the weekend at Lookout and it was fantastic. I did 3 aerotows with a fin and had no issues on tow. Off tow I think it is trimmed a little slow me, porpoises and falls off slowly to the right. I flew through the flare window on my first 2 landings and then had a chat with Mike Barber. He was excellent and gave me some really good insights - I think the Falcon had made me somewhat lazy and with long arms etc was kinda sloppy. My third landing was a 2 stepper - very happy!
I started my tows early in the morning and my latest was around 1330 so it was getting progressively bumpier/thermally. The field was shut down for a couple of hours as it was getting very challenging - a T2C pilot had a very close miss and slid a long way.
4th flight, took off the fin, some yawing but fine, by now it was 1630. Having done my AT training there the tug pilots were great, taking me a 1000' over (i.e. 3500' tows) on each flight and searching for and dropping me in lift. This was an incredible flight. I thermalled and ridge soared for 2 hours with a gaggle of over 20 gliders - amazing!
Towed with 1/2VG and initially left it there off-tow but felt I was just a little 'behind' the glider with all the traffic so dropped it to 1/3 and it was much better. Towards the end of the flight put it back to 1/2 and was doing better but preferred a 1/3.
I left the ridge to avoid the rush hour back to the LZ and was getting pretty tired. Traffic was fairly busy anyway, 3 tugs, 3 tandems, a handful of solos and a powered trike. Would love to say I ended a brilliant flight with a no stepper but was a little late again...
Next day I did 3 more tows, played with VG, turns, bar positions. It was pretty incredible to fly into a 15mph headwind and make progress without a 1 to 1 glide ration and even more incredible to turn round and do a full VG speed run (50mph airspeed with no PIO) past the ramp. Nailed all 3 landings
So ended up with just under 4 hours on my new wing, what an introduction. Many thanks to all those I had chats with over the S2, now just got to go to Highland and pay Sonny for a Falcon 1....
Cheers
Rich
Lookout Mountain - Sport 2
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Re: Lookout Mountain - Sport 2
That's awesome dude, congrats on the new wing, you're gonna love it!
Sunny is one of the most helpful, knowledgeable and nice persons I've yet met in the world of HG - glad you talked to him.
It's funny you'd have some problems landing the Sport 2, when I go mine it pretty much fixed my landings felt much easier than the Falcon. Just make sure to keep thy speed up! You might need to move the Hang point forward - is the hang point on the middle hole now? If your friend was heavier he might of moved it back, if you're light move it forward and it should solve the problems with porpoising and keeping up speed and control (definitely talk to an instructor about this before changing anything though, it's just an idea).
Great to hear you had some nice flying down at Lookout - I should of came!
Looking forward to flying with you sometime.
Sunny is one of the most helpful, knowledgeable and nice persons I've yet met in the world of HG - glad you talked to him.
It's funny you'd have some problems landing the Sport 2, when I go mine it pretty much fixed my landings felt much easier than the Falcon. Just make sure to keep thy speed up! You might need to move the Hang point forward - is the hang point on the middle hole now? If your friend was heavier he might of moved it back, if you're light move it forward and it should solve the problems with porpoising and keeping up speed and control (definitely talk to an instructor about this before changing anything though, it's just an idea).
Great to hear you had some nice flying down at Lookout - I should of came!
Looking forward to flying with you sometime.
Felix.
Re: Lookout Mountain - Sport 2
Felix,
I wouldn't say landing problems exactly - just transitioning...
The hang point is in the middle hole and I found the flare window to be pretty long really. My first 2 I was waiting for it to get to trim and then trying to flare but it was effectively already stalling so just flopped onto wheels and belly. After talking to Mike I just did it a lot earlier and it was fine, I guess seeing the ground whizz by relatively speaking was also a factor compared to the Falcon. I will get Sonny to test fly it and give it a good check over, on tow there was significantly higher bar pressure on the left compared to the right yet off tow it flew straight (bar falling off to the right when stalling). When doing speed runs there seemed to be just a hint of extra pressure required so I am guessing there may be a very slight turn in it.
Yeah, you should have come down Felix, on Sat the decision to launch was based upon how long did you want to fly for, some buddies down there flew for over 4 hours and got 3000' over launch. I could have stayed up for at least another 30-45 mins before sunset but as it was it rained gliders as the light faded.
Cant wait to show you my wing!
Cheers
Rich
I wouldn't say landing problems exactly - just transitioning...
The hang point is in the middle hole and I found the flare window to be pretty long really. My first 2 I was waiting for it to get to trim and then trying to flare but it was effectively already stalling so just flopped onto wheels and belly. After talking to Mike I just did it a lot earlier and it was fine, I guess seeing the ground whizz by relatively speaking was also a factor compared to the Falcon. I will get Sonny to test fly it and give it a good check over, on tow there was significantly higher bar pressure on the left compared to the right yet off tow it flew straight (bar falling off to the right when stalling). When doing speed runs there seemed to be just a hint of extra pressure required so I am guessing there may be a very slight turn in it.
Yeah, you should have come down Felix, on Sat the decision to launch was based upon how long did you want to fly for, some buddies down there flew for over 4 hours and got 3000' over launch. I could have stayed up for at least another 30-45 mins before sunset but as it was it rained gliders as the light faded.
Cant wait to show you my wing!
Cheers
Rich