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A call for different HG/PG photos!

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So I (finally) get my latest USHGA magazine in the mail today, and I'm a bit disappointed to see...another loop photo. I have nothing against aerobatics! But flying photos are getting dull, because they all look the same.

I say this with respect to Bettina Gray award winner Ralph (whose photos are excellent), and everyone else who snaps away. But after you've seen 800 shots of a hang glider or paraglider against the sky...or 600 shots of someone launching...or 500 "taken from the wingtip" shots, they all start looking the same.

It almost becomes a matter of..."Hey, look---the flying wires in this shot form a really wide X, where in that shot the flying wires form more of an H."

Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, but there are many other things to see in our sport---and to take photos of---that would make great photos besides people flying. (BTW, I get tired of seeing the same kayaking shots all the time too, with someone grimacing in the midst of a chaos of spray---so this isn't limited to our sport! See bottom of pg.10 in the latest USHGA magazine.)

What else could we take photos of? Here's a start...
- interesting sights near launches or LZs, like old barns, hand-painted signs, etc.
- pilots clowning around while hang waiting
- pilots sitting around a table having dinner together
- a favorite eatery near a flying site
- interesting details of wings (like PG lines laid out in an interesting way, or the inside of a topless HG wing, etc.)
- unique or homemade pieces of gear
- scenic views from a launch---that don't have to have someone flying in the shot
- cows staring at you in the LZ

In short, we need more photos of everything you see in a typical day of flying, besides the flying itself. Finding other subjects isn't always easy---you have to look around sometimes. But they're always there.

Finally, we could also really use some more nice aerial shots of places we fly...and the shot doesn't have to have any part of the wing or pilot. I realize sometimes this is hard...but c'mon...does every single shot taken from a PG have to have the pilot's feet in the shot? (Some feet shots are cool, but in every one? :))

My call for different photos isn't just in general, but specifically for the newsletter...I really had to scrape for shots in this last issue (but many, many thank you's to the folks who did send photos! I just needed more to fill small leftover spaces...) If you have lots of these different shots, then please---send them to me! I'm gonna work on taking more myself. Like I said, it isn't always easy.

Oh, and one last tip---sometimes you'll have a shot that---viewed in its entirety---isn't very interesting. But there might be something in the photo that's really cool (but might be over in the corner of the photo). Often these details can be cropped out of the photo, or enlarged with a scanner, to make interesting shots in themselves (I'm good with Photoshop!).

Thanks,
Scott

PS - I found some examples of "different" shots in the latest USHGA magazine...
p.05 - cool rippling dunes shot
p.22 - aerial of a beach LZ
p.23 - a gang of pilots around a vehicle, loading wings
p.30 - small center shot of pilots playing under a waterfall
p.50 - the portrait of four pilots
p.52 - interesting closeup angle view of a leading edge
p.65 - (bottom) unique, head-on view of a PG pilot on the ground

...and here are a couple "not different" shots in the same issue...
cover - seen it a thousand times
p.29 - PG launching - seen it a thousand times
p.32 - HG launching - seen it a thousand times
p.42 - (bottom) - seen it a thousand times
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Almost forgot to mention---kudos to Jim Rooney for the awesome and different cover shot he sent for the latest Skyline---that's what I'm talkin' about! I think we should submit that one for the next USHGA magazine cover photo! (Not to mention Jim's article.)

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Re: A call for different HG/PG photos!

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Scott wrote:So I (finally) get my latest USHGA magazine in the mail today, and I'm a bit disappointed to see...another loop photo. I have nothing against aerobatics! But flying photos are getting dull, because they all look the same.

I say this with respect to Bettina Gray award winner Ralph (whose photos are excellent), and everyone else who snaps away. But after you've seen 800 shots of a hang glider or paraglider against the sky...or 600 shots of someone launching...or 500 "taken from the wingtip" shots, they all start looking the same.

It almost becomes a matter of..."Hey, look---the flying wires in this shot form a really wide X, where in that shot the flying wires form more of an H."

Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, but there are many other things to see in our sport---and to take photos of---that would make great photos besides people flying. (BTW, I get tired of seeing the same kayaking shots all the time too, with someone grimacing in the midst of a chaos of spray---so this isn't limited to our sport! See bottom of pg.10 in the latest USHGA magazine.)

What else could we take photos of? Here's a start...
- interesting sights near launches or LZs, like old barns, hand-painted signs, etc.
- pilots clowning around while hang waiting
- pilots sitting around a table having dinner together
- a favorite eatery near a flying site
- interesting details of wings (like PG lines laid out in an interesting way, or the inside of a topless HG wing, etc.)
- unique or homemade pieces of gear
- scenic views from a launch---that don't have to have someone flying in the shot
- cows staring at you in the LZ

In short, we need more photos of everything you see in a typical day of flying, besides the flying itself. Finding other subjects isn't always easy---you have to look around sometimes. But they're always there.

Finally, we could also really use some more nice aerial shots of places we fly...and the shot doesn't have to have any part of the wing or pilot. I realize sometimes this is hard...but c'mon...does every single shot taken from a PG have to have the pilot's feet in the shot? (Some feet shots are cool, but in every one? :))

My call for different photos isn't just in general, but specifically for the newsletter...I really had to scrape for shots in this last issue (but many, many thank you's to the folks who did send photos! I just needed more to fill small leftover spaces...) If you have lots of these different shots, then please---send them to me! I'm gonna work on taking more myself. Like I said, it isn't always easy.

Oh, and one last tip---sometimes you'll have a shot that---viewed in its entirety---isn't very interesting. But there might be something in the photo that's really cool (but might be over in the corner of the photo). Often these details can be cropped out of the photo, or enlarged with a scanner, to make interesting shots in themselves (I'm good with Photoshop!).

Thanks,
Scott

PS - I found some examples of "different" shots in the latest USHGA magazine...
p.05 - cool rippling dunes shot
p.22 - aerial of a beach LZ
p.23 - a gang of pilots around a vehicle, loading wings
p.30 - small center shot of pilots playing under a waterfall
p.50 - the portrait of four pilots
p.52 - interesting closeup angle view of a leading edge
p.65 - (bottom) unique, head-on view of a PG pilot on the ground

...and here are a couple "not different" shots in the same issue...
cover - seen it a thousand times
p.29 - PG launching - seen it a thousand times
p.32 - HG launching - seen it a thousand times
p.42 - (bottom) - seen it a thousand times
I couldn't agree with you more, Scott!

So how about submitting a home video? Say, Holly spanking you with a kayak paddle while you polish her undersurface battens? :P (Not your same old boring loop.)

marc--USHGA director of creativity
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So how about submitting a home video? Say, Holly spanking you with a kayak paddle while you polish her undersurface battens?
LOL---videos are Rich and Gary's department. :D

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I just got a Sony DVD camcorder cause I've had requests for videos of tandem rides. I thought I knew DVD technology--but this is a whole new ballgame. Easy to take and do limited mastering on the spot--but something of a techno-pain to do fancy mastering on a computer.
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A call for different HG/PG photos!

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How about:

http://photos.sickinger.net/20050225_hi ... index.html
(img10855, img10863, img10871, img11020, img11057)

http://photos.sickinger.net/ecc05/00.fa ... index.html
(img11478, img11484, img11487, img11505, img11514, img11848, img11864)

http://photos.sickinger.net/20050625_ri ... index.html
(img12129, img12276, img12398, img12410, img12633, img12652)

(Or are these not "different" enough for you?)

>> I really had to scrape for shots in this last issue

You mean out of the 1100+ images that I took at Highland covering the
East Coast Championship and Flatlands Fly-in, you couldn't find
*anything* that you liked? ;-)

~Ralph
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Post by Scott »

Hi Ralph...

I actually did go through a lot of your photos (but certainly not all---there are too darn many! :)) And I used a few of the ones you referenced (Sunny in the tug, gliders lined up in a row)---those were good!

But though all the rest are great shots, they're all flying shots---we need more non-flying shots! :)

Scott
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A call for different HG/PG photos!

Post by mcelrah »

I never get tired of watching airplanes take off, or seeing pictures
of hang-gliders launching - but would like more aerial shots. Is it
too early to wonder where my paper newsletter is? (Linda, send in
your Kinko's and postage claim - e-mail is fine.) Haven't seen my
USHGA mag either... Went backpacking on Dolly Sods this weekend -
cool! - physically and figuratively. - Hugh

On 11 Aug 2005, at 15:31, Scott wrote:

>
> So I (finally) get my latest USHGA magazine in the mail today, and
> I'm a bit disappointed to see...another loop photo. I have nothing
> against aerobatics! But flying photos are getting dull, because
> they all look the same.
>
> I say this with respect to Bettina Gray award winner Ralph (whose
> photos are excellent), and everyone else who snaps away. But after
> you've seen 800 shots of a hang glider or paraglider against the
> sky...or 600 shots of someone launching...or 500 "taken from the
> wingtip" shots, they all start looking the same.
>
> It almost becomes a matter of..."Hey, look---the flying wires in
> this shot form a really wide X, where in that shot the flying wires
> form more of an H."
>
> Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, but there are many other
> things to see in our sport---and to take photos of---that would
> make great photos besides people flying. (BTW, I get tired of
> seeing the same kayaking shots all the time too, with someone
> grimacing in the midst of a chaos of spray---so this isn't limited
> to our sport! See bottom of pg.10 in the latest USHGA magazine.)
>
> What else could we take photos of? Here's a start...
> - interesting sights near launches or LZs, like old barns, hand-
> painted signs, etc.
> - pilots clowning around while hang waiting
> - pilots sitting around a table having dinner together
> - a favorite eatery near a flying site
> - interesting details of wings (like PG lines laid out in an
> interesting way, or the inside of a topless HG wing, etc.)
> - unique or homemade pieces of gear
> - scenic views from a launch---that don't have to have someone
> flying in the shot
> - cows staring at you in the LZ
>
> In short, we need more photos of everything you see in a typical
> day of flying, besides the flying itself. Finding other subjects
> isn't always easy---you have to look around sometimes. But they're
> always there.
>
> Finally, we could also really use some more nice aerial shots of
> places we fly...and the shot doesn't have to have any part of the
> wing or pilot. I realize sometimes this is hard...but c'mon...does
> every single shot taken from a PG have to have the pilot's feet in
> the shot? (Some feet shots are cool, but in every one? :))
>
> My call for different photos isn't just in general, but
> specifically for the newsletter...I really had to scrape for shots
> in this last issue (but many, many thank you's to the folks who did
> send photos! I just needed more to fill small leftover spaces...)
> If you have lots of these different shots, then please---send them
> to me! I'm gonna work on taking more myself. Like I said, it isn't
> always easy.
>
> Oh, and one last tip---sometimes you'll have a shot that---viewed
> in its entirety---isn't very interesting. But there might be
> something in the photo that's really cool (but might be over in the
> corner of the photo). Often these details can be cropped out of the
> photo, or enlarged with a scanner, to make interesting shots in
> themselves (I'm good with Photoshop!).
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
> PS - I found some examples of "different" shots in the latest USHGA
> magazine...
> p.05 - cool rippling dunes shot
> p.22 - aerial of a beach LZ
> p.23 - a gang of pilots around a vehicle, loading wings
> p.30 - small center shot of pilots playing under a waterfall
> p.50 - the portrait of four pilots
> p.52 - interesting closeup angle view of a leading edge
> p.65 - (bottom) unique, head-on view of a PG pilot on the ground
>
> ...and here are a couple "not different" shots in the same issue...
> cover - seen it a thousand times
> p.29 - PG launching - seen it a thousand times
> p.32 - HG launching - seen it a thousand times
> p.42 - (bottom) - seen it a thousand times
>
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