Going out on a third limb

Post by **XCanytime** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:37 pm

Pulpit Saturday 12/8 if not too north? Hope so. Bacil

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Is a third limb the same as a third leg?

[quote="XCanytime"]Pulpit Saturday 12/8 if not too north? Hope so. Bacil[/quote]

Post by **hepcat1989** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:17 pm

OK Cracker...( Bacil) Looks like the Pulpit may work tomorrow afternoon.
WNW@8-10. May be a little more wind left in Mc-burg.
Anyone?
Shawn.

Post by **hepcat1989** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:19 pm

Cell- 1-717-496-7198
Shawn.

Post by **RedBaron** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:59 pm

Again, I'm in. HR, Pulpit, I don't care. I'll go where the majority goes. Glen and Gregory want to go, too.

Post by **dbodner** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:24 pm

Wind speed may favor Pulpit; direction may favor HR. I'm favoring HR because I need to get back in the evening. And I'm somehow liking the idea of the HR LZ in snow more than the Pulpit LZ in snow.

Post by **XCanytime** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:30 pm

Which one do you favor? A half hour more drive may make the difference between the two. Bacil

Post by **hepcat1989** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:06 pm

dbodner wrote: And I'm somehow liking the idea of the HR LZ in snow more than the Pulpit LZ in snow.

The secondary is a pretty easy retrieve. Drive/ carry out.
Shawn.

Post by **mcelrah** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:31 am

Dang, my crystal ball is cloudy - so is the weather... - Hugh

Post by **RedBaron** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:09 am

HR is not going to be soarable, the Pulpit might be.
I say let's give the Pulpit a try. Who's definitely going?

Post by **hepcat1989** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:22 am

I can meet you up there in the afternoon Janni. It's pretty crappy here right now.....( 9:22 am) It just stopped raining..... Bring a shovel and salt.
Shawn.

Post by **dbodner** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:30 am

Lots of good launches. Some not so great landings. The lower field was muddy, so wheels weren't going to help. I wonder if wheels would've rolled in the upper field.

Some of us flew early and didn't stay up long. Others flew later after the winds picked up and soared. Janni had the FOD on his Lightspeed.

Glen, Gregory, Shawn, Hugh, Chris Dabrowski...who else?

Post by **hepcat1989** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:19 am

Yeah Dave, I think that was it.( pilots)
I arrived at 12:15 to see Chris already set up. Janni and Dave arrived next to some cloudy conditions. We set up. Nice wing Janni!
Chris went first for an extendo. I followed suit. Dave had a nice extendo. Then joined Chris and I in the mud/cow shit. Thanks to Janni and Dave for help off the new ramp and to Brian VH for the ride back up to launch! Good to see you Brian! Looking all Grenich Villiage in your black over coat.
He's a New Yorka. Good to see ya. Hope you made it to Carlisle on time.
Yeah, Dave. I think the upper field was in fine shape. That's where I landed. I walked it out to a grassy spot in the lower field. I made it back up to help Glen and Hugh launch.Nice launch Glen. Hugh was going to fly PG , but it started coming in 16-17mph. Hugh was still enjoying an evening flight on his U2 when I left.
It was pretty warm I thought.
It was a nice day out. Better than sitting on the couch watching the dog lick it's ass.
Peace, Shawn.

Post by **hepcat1989** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:24 am

Oh, nice call on the winds there Bacil!
You lucky SOB.
Shawn.

Post by **mcelrah** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:28 am

I arrived late, noted that the first wave had had short flights, so set up the paraglider. Brian VH showed up to say hello - so we immediately drafted him to helping us run a shuttle to get a vehicle in the LZ, and bring four pilots back to the top to wire crew for the second wave. Janni launched and stayed up. It had gotten a bit stronger - Shawn measured 14-17 - I did an experimental inflation of the PG, but got jerked and decided it was not worth the risk - might not have been able to penetrate easily, either. Chris gave me a ride back down to retrieve my vehicle with the hang-glider on it. By the time I set up and launched (with excellent wire crew), it was 4:40. I flew hands off for much of the flight in smooth air, went out to land at 5:00. Came in hot, flared on time, but chickened out when I started to pop up, pulled in and there was not enough energy left for a full second flare. Bellied in, but the wheels stuck in the mud. Swung through and hit the nose wires with my face (helmet is unscratched), drove my glasses into the area above the bridge of my nose. When I got home, took a shower and washed all the congealed blood off, I could see a deep cut, so went in for 6 stitches. No bent aluminum. Will try the training hill, but I think the only way to really replicate a high-ground-speed/no-wind landing is at a tow park... - Hugh

Post by **dbodner** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:25 pm

Twice yesterday I did the "should I walk or should I run" thing after seeing a glider lying at a weird angle. After a pile in, I think the pilot should make some obvious movement of pilot and/or glider as an OK signal, as long as there are no severed arteries.

Self-critical meditations can come later. Under the breath cursing can be accomplished in parallel with glider movement.

Post by **mcelrah** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:58 pm

"Move so people know you are not badly hurt" IS the rule. But it sometimes takes a few moments to collect yourself after a sudden arrival. Thanks for coming to check! - Hugh (resembling Raging Bull after losing a match...)

Post by **hepcat1989** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:30 pm

Hugh, what's MORE important is.How bad does the other guy look?
Glad you're allright.
Shawn.

Post by **mcelrah** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:03 pm

The glider is fine - and I'm glad! - Hugh
P.S. Gave me something to talk about at a (non-flying) Christmas party...

Post by **Matthew** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:20 pm

Hi Hugh,

The same thing happend to me an eon ago when I whacked at Taylor Farm. Helmet smashed my wire rim glasses down onto my face and sliced me between my eyebrows. I was so sweaty (typical brutal hot day at Taylor) that I didn't realize that I had been cut. I arrived back at the top of the hill, carrying my glider, with my face covered in blood (I thought it was sweat). Scared the Hell out of everyone!!!! I got a half dozen stitches. I've been telling people for years that they shouldn't wear wire rim glasses when flying because of what happened to me. It's pretty much fallen on deaf ears as with most things.

So now you can pick up the baton and warn people about the dangers of wearing wire rim glasses.

I'm also getting tired at warning people about--

wuffos on wire crew

wearing pants when flying

wearing hiking boots when you're flying the mountains or doing any kind of XC flying

owning a windsock

wearing a full face helmet

having wheels on your glider

and

staying current.

If anyone else wants to take over the job of being the pain in the ass safety jerk, I'd be willing to turn over that job.

Matthew

Post by **brianvh** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:10 pm

Sorry to here about it Hugh. I'm sure a dab of make-up here and there will cover up the extra eyebrow.

I usually don't wear glasses just because I'm afraid I'll lose them and not be able to find my way home in the dark.

Paul Tjaden · Post by **Paul Tjaden** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:23 am

Hey Matthew,

I've been accused of being pretty liberal but even I always wear pants when flying. I do, however, wear knee pads when flying with shorts. Sometimes it's just too damn hot to wear "big boy" pants down here.

BTW, We've been having some really nice flying down here, considering how low the sun angle is. I got 1:10 on Saturday and several got two hours plus last weekend. Couldn't fly yesterday due to spending time with the in-laws but the sky looked great and the birds were stinking high. We've also got a pretty large group down here. John Hope is in town for a while along with a couple other snow birds and there's a group of kids from Kitty Hawk down here to get there H3's. We also have a Quest pilots forum now which is generating more interest. Lots of activity and fun!

Paul

Post by **Dan T** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:44 am

Paul, it's nice to hear that you may be saving Quest. For those of you who haven't visited Quest, it's the antithesis of Wallaby. A club rather than commercial atmosphere, a huge launch and landing area.

I was a little put off by the absence of activity at first, but it was nice to have the field largely to ourselves.

The best part was the hospitality that Paul and Lauren showed us. I encourage you all to give it a try if you are going down that way.

Dan T

Post by **mcelrah** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:23 am

Well, on the glasses front, I was wearing my clear lens glasses rather than the blind-man dark polarized sunglasses because it was so late in the day. Flying without glasses would be a really dumb idea for me - my uncorrected vision is 20/600 or thereabouts. I was pretty amazed that I managed to hit the face opening in my "full-face" helmet - the face-shield was up for better vision on final. Would I have preferred taking the nose wires directly in the face? I suppose one could get those "sport glasses", but can you get the full array of lenses for them? I have continuously variable multi-refraction "bifocals" so I can see my instruments, read a chart, etc., as well as see at a distance. Oh and I need them polarized so I can see the contours of clouds better.

The swelling kicked in after 24 hours, with colorful streaks on my puffy eyelids and under the eyes.

- Hugh/"Elephant Man"

Post by **Matthew** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:30 am

The solution is a pair of inexpensive black plastic nerd glasses for flying.

Matthew

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