I'd MUCH rather talk about my SECOND flight...

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I'd MUCH rather talk about my SECOND flight...

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Wills Wing Eagle: $3500
Z5 Harness: $800
Knocking over your observer's windsock on your first mountain flight: PRICELESS

So my first mountain flight was at Bill's Hill this Saturday. After spending the first couple hours helping the slot clearing effort, walking the LZ, and setting up my glider, I find myself at launch and ready to fly. Matthew went over the flight plan with me again, wind was coming straight in, and it was time to go. It sure is a lot more intimidating than the training hill! But the launch was pretty good and once I was flying, I felt right at home.

Did a left turn and went a couple hundred feet that way, checking the ridge to see if I was maintaining my altitude. I thought I was (really wasn't), so I turned back the other direction and took another look. At that point, it definitely looked questionable, so I turned out to head to the LZ.

Lesson number one - paying attention to the ridge does not preclude one from casting the occasional glance to the LZ ...you know, that place where you need to LAND. As I make my way to the LZ, I notice I'm a lot lower than I want to be at this point. Not good. Not to the point where I need to be worrying about tree landings, but still not good. So I remind myself to relax the death grip on the control bar - let the glider fly. It does, and I make the LZ ok, but promise myself not to make THAT mistake again. (Pucker Factor = BAD)

As I set up for my landing, the sock is hannging limply so I pick a line that gives me some relatively flat ground. I keep the speed up in the approach, into ground effect and flare for a decent stand-up landing. Lesson number two - when picking a line for your landing, make sure it has enough room for you AND your glider. Although the landing was ok, I clipped the windsock with my left wingtip, knocking it over and knocking off the bolt that holds the sock in place. Didn't really kill it completely, but I'm sure it was seeing stars. My apologies to the pilots that were trying to set up their landings after me, going "what the heck happened to the windsock?" <raises hand> Um...that would be me. :oops: Sorry!

So at this point in time, my excitement at making my first mountain flight was somewhat tempered by the thoughts going through my head, which were pretty much along the lines of: "Great - I just gave my observer a cardiac arrest by being so low, AND I broke his windsock...now that's just fantastic. No one is ever going to throw me off a mountain again!" Many thanks to the pilot that landed after me, noted my story about knocking over the windsock, and replied "F*ck it - tell him you were aiming for it!" It made me feel a lot better.

So not exactly the way I really wanted to make my mountain flying debut, but I launched, I landed, I lived, and I learned. Matthew was kind enough to consent to throw me off again a little while later (after my performance the first time, he's a saint in my book for doing that). Second flight was MUCH better than the first (although the launch was a little lazy). Headed straight for the LZ and got there with plenty of altitude this time, so I did a few figure 8 turns and set up for landing. Flare was a hair early this time, so I popped up a couple feet, but still managed to stand it up. All in all, a heck of a day for me. The fact that I flew off a MOUNTAIN (twice, even) is still kinda sinking in...and I like it :D Definitely a lot of room for improvement, but I'm looking forward to doing it again.

Don't worry...your windsocks will be safe from now on...I promise!

--Chris Donahue
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I'd MUCH rather talk about my SECOND flight...

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Was that windsock posted on a light-purple mast, by any chance?

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from: cdonahue (04/17/2005 14:35)
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Wills Wing Eagle: $3500
Z5 Harness: $800
Knocking over your observer's windsock on your first mountain flight:
PRICELESS
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Re: I'd MUCH rather talk about my SECOND flight...

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rs54263 wrote:Was that windsock posted on a light-purple mast, by any chance?
Yes - no guy wires, just a metal spike at the bottom.
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Yeah; I made that mast for them. It's designed to take minimal damage
in case somebody runs in to it. If you popped the sock off the top of
the mast, then I'm guessing that you lost the top bolt (which will have
to be replaced) and you bent the ground spike (which will also have to
be replaced). The rest of the mast should be fine, no?

Looks like you own me $10. (Windsock-strike penalty.) ;-)

~Ralph

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from: cdonahue (04/18/2005 07:48)
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rs54263 wrote:
Was that windsock posted on a light-purple mast, by any chance?
Yes - no guy wires, just a metal spike at the bottom.
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Re: I'd MUCH rather talk about my SECOND flight...

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rs54263 wrote:I'm guessing that you lost the top bolt (which will have
to be replaced) and you bent the ground spike (which will also have to
be replaced).
Looks like you own me $10. (Windsock-strike penalty.) ;-)
Right on both guesses (although we were able to bend the spike back). Will happily pay the penalty. Maybe I should get some credit for validating your "crash worthiness" design specifications though? :wink:
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>> Right on both guesses (although we were able to bend the spike
back). Will happily pay the penalty. Maybe I should get some credit for
validating your "crash worthiness" design specifications though?

Sorry, but 3 other pilots before you have already validated the "crash
worthiness" of my design. :-) And I insist on the penalty to, uh,
"discourage" pilots from hitting the windsock. (A) It's bad form, and
(B) every time someone does, I have to make new spikes!

Still, congratulations on your first mountain flight!

~Ralph
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Re: I'd MUCH rather talk about my SECOND flight...

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rs54263 wrote:Sorry, but 3 other pilots before you have already validated the "crash
worthiness" of my design. :-)
Nuts...and here I thought I could claim a pioneering spirit. :lol:
rs54263 wrote:Still, congratulations on your first mountain flight!
Thanks!
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Speaking of Windsocks

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So there were dozens of pilots at Bills on Saturday and we were the only pilots with a windsock. What the hell is going on???? What? You're all too cheap to own a windsock. I know some of you claim to be too good to need a windsock. But I've seen you perfect XC pilots pound in landing the wrong way. So get a windsock! It should live in your HG vehicle with your jumper cables, your emergency road kit, your basic tool kit, your tree ropes, tree retrieval kit and folding saw, your first aid kit, streamer tape and your tie down straps for High Rock. And if you don't have these things either, quit being so cheap and get them.

And duct tape. Gotta have duct tape.

Matthew
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Post by dbodner »

Jumper cables! Who needs stinkin' jumper cables?!

I've been chastising myself for not having a windsock. Now I can add
your voice to the chorus. BTW, is there a recommended length,
material, and source for the tie down straps? Need to get those, too.

Dave (still too cheap for the jumper cables)

On Monday, April 18, 2005, at 02:40 PM, Matthew wrote:

> So get a windsock! It should live in your HG vehicle with your jumper
> cables, your emergency road kit, your basic tool kit, your tree ropes,
> tree retrieval kit and folding saw, your first aid kit, streamer tape
> and your tie down straps for High Rock. And if you don't have these
> things either, quit being so cheap and get them.
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Post by XCanytime »

A good windsock to get is one of the 4' spinner windsocks from The Kite Loft.? There used to be a Kite Loft in the Light Street Pavilion of the Baltimore Inner Harbor.? The spinner windsock is beneficial in that the speed of the spin is a good indicator of the velocity of the wind.? Faster spin = stronger wind.? Easily mounted on a tomato stake with a 4P nail on top.? Carry a short stake and a hammer for driving a pilot hole for the tomato stake (and killing Dracula :-) ).

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Post by mcelrah »

Geez, what a scold! (Not bad advice though.) - Hugh

On 18 Apr 2005, at 14:40, Matthew wrote:

> So there were dozens of pilots at Bills on Saturday and we were the
> only pilots with a windsock. What the hell is going on???? What?
> You're all too cheap to own a windsock. I know some of you claim to be
> too good to need a windsock. But I've seen you perfect XC pilots pound
> in landing the wrong way. So get a windsock! It should live in your HG
> vehicle with your jumper cables, your emergency road kit, your basic
> tool kit, your tree ropes, tree retrieval kit and folding saw, your
> first aid kit, streamer tape and your tie down straps for High Rock.
> And if you don't have these things either, quit being so cheap and get
> them.
>
> And duct tape. Gotta have duct tape.
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
>
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PG

Post by Matthew »

Hey Hugh,

Congrats on your first high PG flight! Have fun in WV this weekend. Dwayne is a real hoot!

Another one joins the dark side.....

Matthew
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